Interview with former Channel [V] vice president content and communication Keertan Adyanthaya
 

"What made Popstars succeed was its fantasy element rather than reality"

Posted on 9 October 2003
 

A chemical engineer by education, Adyanthaya took a detour into advertising before landing up as content head of Channel [V] in May 2002, coinciding with the launch of the first Popstars band Viva. With apt packaging, the Popstars managed to turn the channel's future around.

Now all set to resume new responsibilities as Star News' brand director, Adyanthaya will now handle both on air and off air communication for Star News.

Prior to the responsibility shift, he met indiantelevision.com's Trupti Ghag, and spoke about Popstars, its importance to the channel and more.
Excerpts:

 

How do you describe reality shows and the music channel equation?
It is only recently that reality TV as a genre has been assigned a name. In its essence, it has been present all along. With the advent of shows like Temptation Island and Survivor, the stark reality portrayed led to the christening of the genre in the country.

We had a show called Gone India, where we followed VJ Purab, going around the country, traveling like normal Indians do. At that time, it was classified as a travel show. Probably, if it had been out now, it would have been classified as a reality show.

Our main motto is to interact with our viewers. The channel demographics would be 15-34 ABC, but the core audience is 18-30, the youth.The youth like to watch themselves on the television, interacting with the camera, the VJs, characters. That defines our involvement with the reality genre. We gauge what kind of situation they deal with and try to capture it.

As far as the mega reality show is concerned, Popstars are the biggest reality show on our channel. But what made it succeed is its fantasy element rather than reality. Indians do not like to revel so much in the reality genre, not everybody wants to watch shows like Big Brother, but we definitely are interested in seeing how people's lives can be transformed. Our Hindi movies are about fantasy. You have to suspend disbelief, which is what attracts the viewers. How do you translate that element of fantasy into reality, that's where Popstars came in.

It transformed five regular girls to the stars that you adore, revere. Popstars as a concept blended reality with fantasy… fantasy of the five girls and another 6,000 too.

 

During the conceptual stage, did you ever imagine that it would be as big a success?
It was a format that we picked from Zeal TV. But the format was just a framework, the rest was ours. While we were sure that the format would work, we didn't know that it would become a huge success.

 

One statement that is doing the rounds in media is that although 'Popstars' might have help fillip the channel's TRPs, it wasn't really a commercial success. What do you have to say about that?
Of course, it has been a commercial success. The amount we invested we got back in terms of ad sales, album sales and the brand equity the programme generated. It has delivered on all counts.

 

How much has 'Popstars' really helped the channel?
Prior to the first edition of Popstars, we were a distant number two. Popstars did really turn our future around. And now with the second edition of the programme, we are really distinctly the number one channel. The recent TAM figures show that we lead the TRP roster by a phenomenal margin during the Popstars telecast.

 

As compared to last year's 'Popstars', the channel seemed less pushy, be it in terms of publicity or channel promotions this year. Why?
I do not completely agree with that statement, but yes it isn't as high key. We were new to doing reality then, but now we have the learnings. Also I think we might have gone a little overboard, but we had to work on the public image extensively. The show had to be drummed into people's heads.

Popstars is a flagship brand, but unfortunately post the first Popstars, people thought we were a Popstars channel. We should have adopted the Kaun Banega Crorepati strategy. Although KBC topped the popularity charts when it launched, Star Plus didn't just revel on it. They chose to promote Kyunki... and Kahaani... and as we know, within months, they surpassed KBC's popularity.

 
"Prior to the first edition of Popstars, we were a distant number two. Popstars did really turn our future around. And now with the second edition of the programme we are really distinctly the number one channel"
 

How and why was Coke roped in to sponsor the event?
In Popstars, they found a good brand fit. When talks were on during the first Popstars hunt, their brand was all about making dreams come true, which fit perfectly with the Popstars theme. Their catch line was Jo chaho ho jaye. The amount of branding that they got around the programme was good, so they are on board for the second hunt as well.

 

What is the essence of channel [V]?
It is what Simpoo and his kids are...irreverent, naughty, funny and very in your face.

 
Speaking of reality shows, how did Panga happen?
It wasn't a format. It was thought of during one of our brainstorming sessions.
We were looking for shows which would blend in adventure and fun and a sense of daring and taking the establishment head on. Initially we did an episode which was adventure related like rappelling and now we have new episodes like the 'Ketchup' and the 'Phantom'.
 

But it sound so much like 'Candid Camera'
It is marriage between Candid Camera and an adventure show, just like Star Plus' Chuppa Rustom.

 

What is the response to reality shows like 'Panga' and 'Crush'?
The response has been tremendous for Panga. Even for a romantic programme like Crush, the desire to give Cupid a chance to make two hearts meet is also a very popular programme. The demand is much higher than supply.

 
"The amount required to put in shows like Amazing Race is a cool million dollar per episode. We do not have that kind of money"
 

What is the music break up on the channel?
Currently its is 80:20 (80 per cent Hindi and 20 per cent English). When we launched four years ago, the break up was 50:50. But we changed the equation then as the demand for Hindi music was high.

 

You had earlier mentioned that you wouldn't be keen on making Popstars 3. Why?
How many pop bands can we keep creating? Instead of a pop band, we may look at a pop star. Probably might have a format where we select four people. All those four people create albums and that are floated in the market, and whoever sells the most is crowned.

We may not do Popstars 3, but we might do something different.

 

What about other reality shows like 'Panga'?
Panga is scheduled to go on till June 2004. As for other reality shows, we have to take a rain check. I don't see one happening in the near future.

 

What are the constraints while making reality shows?
There are no constraints, except for the money factor. The amount required to put in shows like Amazing Race is a cool million dollars per episode. We do not have that kind of money.

 

Despite being a music channel, [V] didn't have fashion vignettes in the programming line up till of late, Why?
We did not have a gap to put in the programme, both fashion and style related - Cool Stop as well as film spoof show - Solid Climax were languishing for quite some time.

Certain programmes were doing well, you can't take them off, plus you can't put in too many vignettes lest it look cluttered. We are clearly a music channel. If you don't get enough music on the channel, it is anathema to the channel. In an hour, you have to have 10-12 songs, instead if you are running these interstitials you are doing a disservice to your viewers and we would rather not do that.

 

Why is it that you don't commission your programmes?
At [V], we have a critical assessment of every programme. Each programme should pass the UPD test- Unique Popular Distinctive. Not only do we find it far more economical to make programmes in-house, we also think that a programme tuned for what [V] a brand stands for, can be made in-house.

 
What is [V]'s policy to tackle the competition?
We keep a close track of our competition. We are on the constant look out for the gaps, the loopholes, see where we can better them. We look out for the chinks in the armour and go and exploit those.
 
What is the current music scenario like?
It's in the doldrums. Radio is killing us, piracy is killing us. But according to me, there is still a market for good music. If Viva sold why can't anothers sell. You need to make good enough music and not depend on remixes.
 
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